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Has Pant well and truly surpassed Dhoni in Tests?


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I don't think there is any argument in favour of Dhoni over Pant in an All time Indian test XI now.. Guy has played some ATG test innings in his <30 match test career. People might say their averages are similar but Pant has only played 6 of his 28 matches in India and nearly 20 tests in SENA. The more he plays in India, that average will surely go up. Plus he is a left hander as well.

 

Anyone still arguing for Dhoni? 

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24 of his 28 career tests are vs SENA, 20 in SENA. Only 4 vs WI, none vs SL, BD etc. 

 

Have said this before, everytime he does well, Kohli and Shastri should publicly apologize to him for nearly derailing his career.

 

now to improve his LOI record which he wil after a proper run.

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7 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

24 of his 28 career tests are vs SENA, 20 in SENA. Only 4 vs WI, none vs SL, BD etc. 

 

Have said this before, everytime he does well, Kohli and Shastri should publicly apologize to him for nearly derailing his career.

 

now to improve his LOI record which he wil after a proper run.

needs to open in LOIs imo. Best spot for his kind of batting.

 

 

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That is a low bar. If you ask me Dhoni overachieved given his unsuitable technique for Tests. Ofcourse in subcontinent he was going to do well.  Dhoni played in an era where his batting was a bonus. Pant is playing in an era where his contribution is almost a must. We will realize his potential when we have a strong top and middle order. Time is on his side.  

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7 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

Pant is competing with top batting names of Indian cricket, not with Dhoni.

 

 


Fantastic comment.  Whether that happens or not ultimately, this is actually the ceiling that Pant naturally aspires to.  Not just some wicket keeper batsman thing. 

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Dhoni averaged 38 in tests. So, he was not as bad as some are trying to demean him. 

 

Take an example, Rahane as a specialist bat averages 38 in Test Cricket. We won't have bashed him much had he kept wickets too or even be a Shastri level test bowler. Even 100 test wickets in his 80 tests career alongside 4900 runs he got would have been good enough.

 

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23 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Dhoni averaged 38 in tests. So, he was not as bad as some are trying to demean him. 

 

Take an example, Rahane as a specialist bat averages 38 in Test Cricket. We won't have bashed him much had he kept wickets too or even be a Shastri level test bowler. Even 100 test wickets in his 80 tests career alongside 4900 runs he got would have been good enough.

 

Dhoni didn't have any great performance overseas. Pant has hardly played anything at home.

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27 minutes ago, Majestic said:

Dhoni averaged 38 in tests. So, he was not as bad as some are trying to demean him. 

 

Take an example, Rahane as a specialist bat averages 38 in Test Cricket. We won't have bashed him much had he kept wickets too or even be a Shastri level test bowler. Even 100 test wickets in his 80 tests career alongside 4900 runs he got would have been good enough.

 

Would be interesting to see exactly how many matches Dhoni played in SENA. I guess it must be low.

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1 minute ago, HamHindustani said:

err. the comparison is funny in my opinion. Dhoni as a complete cricketer was much better in tests. Pant is miles behind. Lets wait for Pants career to be over and then compare

 

Yes, Pant's bowling is nowhere close to Dhoni's. 

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3 minutes ago, HamHindustani said:

err. the comparison is funny in my opinion. Dhoni as a complete cricketer was much better in tests. Pant is miles behind. Lets wait for Pants career to be over and then compare

I hope you aren't bringing Dhoni's captaincy in Tests.. One of the most mediocre test captains India has ever had

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