prudent_kreeda Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) Am not able to understand why there is so much confusion in assessing the ability of players . When KL scores in couple of matches he is demi-God and when fails in 2 matches he is mental midget ! . He has been our top T20 player in different conditions for last 2 years . A mental midget or someone lacking ability cannot reach such level. At least assess him objectively - Does he have all the shots to play aggressively ? Can he play even fastest stuff and get runs , . Can he be big hitter vs spinners Has he shown his ability against Top teams several times Please answer yourself for the above and assess . People will make runs and also fail , Form also will dip at times . If that is not happening why no one is able to score at more than 55 Average in their career. ? If i were Shastri , i would even test him at #4 or #5 in next 3 matches if he cannot be accommodated at the top. You cannot throw out a proven match winner of short format as he has more capability than Iyer. Rohit, Ishan ,Kohli, SKY, KL, Pant , Hardik line up for next 2 matches Edited March 16, 2021 by prudent_kreeda . Cricspin and Ankit_sharma03 1 1 Link to comment
vvvslaxman Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Majestic said: But then this will mean they will drop Kishan once Rohit is back. After 1 innings he becomes the prime contender for the job? Let us see when he is up against cummins, starc. AmazeBallz and Ankit_sharma03 1 1 Link to comment
zen Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cricspin said: We can definitely compare Rahul with other top order players. However the intention of showing stats of someone who people consider a high impact player was to show that Rahul strikes at the same rate as Pandya while scoring at much higher average. Yes, thanks to him playing top of the order. Obviously there is **** ton of discussion that can happen based on batting position. Thanks for avoiding the explanation. Saves time for both of us. I did not want to discuss how we can just a move a player from no.6/7 to Top3 and just assume he will keep scoring at even higher rate while improving his average 2X-3X of current average. It is proven that if good batsmen get to play more balls, their avg and SR improves ... you can also pick the bowlers to target unlike in the death overs where you have less options, while also leveraging on field restrictions ... Below since 2018 View overall figures Primary team India Opposition team Australia or England or India or New Zealand or Pakistan or South Africa or Sri Lanka or West Indies Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2018 Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 200 Ordered by batting strike rate (descending) Overall figures Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS Ave BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s HH Pandya 2018-2021 16 11 4 215 42* 30.71 152 141.44 0 0 0 14 12 RG Sharma 2018-2020 29 28 3 771 111* 30.84 546 141.20 2 5 2 67 41 KL Rahul 2018-2021 29 27 3 916 101* 38.16 651 140.70 1 7 2 81 36 V Kohli 2018-2021 30 28 8 1036 94* 51.80 740 140.00 0 8 1 61 44 S Dhawan 2018-2021 30 28 0 865 92 30.89 647 133.69 0 6 0 88 25 MS Dhoni 2018-2019 11 9 4 242 52* 48.40 186 130.10 0 1 0 21 8 RR Pant 2018-2021 24 22 4 374 65* 20.77 292 128.08 0 2 3 25 20 SS Iyer 2019-2021 17 16 6 313 67 31.30 245 127.75 0 2 1 23 12 MK Pandey 2018-2020 18 16 10 372 79* 62.00 292 127.39 0 2 0 25 10 Above SDP has an avg of 31 with a SR of 141, that too after only playing 13-14 balls per inning. Guys who mostly bat in the top order avg 23-24 balls Link to comment
Lone Wolf Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Rahul should just back himself & go hard from ball 1.. I think he is still most gifted batsman to come out of India in last decade. But has confidence issues. Ability wise he is second to none. Cricspin, AmazeBallz and VT87 2 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 HE IS NOT AN OPENER. NEVER. HE IS A MIDDLE ORDER BAT. PLAY HIM AT 4OR 5 IN ODI T20 AND EVEN TESTS. HE CANT PLAY SWING WHEN HE OPENS. HE IS A SLOW STARTER. AmazeBallz and GautiMaan 1 1 Link to comment
Amit228 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I have no issues with kela rahul failing.. however i have issues with his batting attitude nd his mindset of being an accumulator im t20i... I mean how many accumulators we can afford in our line up? Rohit is in same mold of starting slow nd then going big.. but even this strategy hasn't bought him the level of success which he would have desired specially in IPL Kohli is another accumulator..we can tho afford him specially in run chases. Rahul- another accumulator being mirror copy of rohit.. can bash bowlers but prefer to show deadbat and carries a meak attitude.. Iyer- another accumulator..can bash spinners but is deplorable against quick express pace.. Now this is the problem with our t20i team... When u have ur top 4 as accumulators then more often than not this team will fail.. this template would work in odi but .. how will it suffice in t20i?? How many of u expect to get a flying start where both of our openers (rahul & rohit) plays to preserve their wicket..? That's why kishan has brought a breath of fresh air with his attacking batting at top. AmazeBallz 1 Link to comment
nevada Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 It looks like that big score of 130 odd he got against RCB in the IPL has messed up his game. He wants to tuk tuk now with the hopes of staying till the end and getting such a big 100 again. I hope he just bats freely without any clutter to smack the ball around like he did when he was new. In full flow, Rahul"s batting is a treat to watch! Link to comment
jusarrived Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Kl still jmo is our best T20 bat,but his change of approach in last 12 months or so is concerning. We can't afford another accumulator in the team, in such a case hes better off pushed down the order where he's forced to hit from the word go . His biggest strength is that he starts timing from the very first ball, ideally has no reason to play like Virat or Rohit . Link to comment
Khota Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 KL is the top bat for India. Need to leave him alone. AmazeBallz 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, sarchasm said: After kela rahul, we now have KL Udaas courtesy @Suhaan Udaas kela? He once took holy bath in river Hwang Ho,the sorrow of China AmazeBallz and sarchasm 1 1 Link to comment
Texan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 46 minutes ago, The Realist said: The new Ajit Agarkar? Does he bowl at 135+ kph? Cricspin 1 Link to comment
Number Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Binary man Norman, velu, Ravi_Shastri and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment
Texan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I wouldn't blame Rahul. He is going through a bad rut and the best thing that a captain can do is to give him a break, let him work out the chinks and come back later. But what does Captain Bravado actually do? He drops a talented batsman who never got to bat in his debut match and instead continues playing KL. The writing was on the wall here and only the blind could not read it. AmazeBallz, Frustrated and someone 2 1 Link to comment
Frustrated Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Joker. Wait till few karnataka lobby posters come here to defend him. AmazeBallz 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 How are captain and TM at fault. They want Rahul to do well that is why they gave him chances. Link to comment
Vickydev Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) Needs a break or maybe later on when he doesnt have to put his thinking cap on Edited March 16, 2021 by Vickydev Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Can be given few more chances in the middle order owned the no.5 spot in ODI's,also both his t20 international centuries have come in the middle order..some food for thought for the TM Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Good to hear that Adamant 1 Link to comment
AmazeBallz Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 On 3/14/2021 at 3:15 PM, OpeningBatsman said: He will turn 29 next year Not exactly a spring chicken. Morgan is 34. What is your point? Frustrated and Norman 2 Link to comment
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