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Ind vs NZ 3rd ODI, Mount Maunganui


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3 minutes ago, Cricwala said:

South Africa in 90s was a well-drilled team. Only Donald and Pollock were the really gifted bowlers in their team. But the rest of their attack - Fannie, McMillan, Klusener, Craig Mathews, Symcox, Kallis, Cronje (a batting 'trundler' who still kept it very-2 tight) - had their plans, kept their intensity levels high and their effectiveness as a bowling group was greater than sum of their parts.  That is what we need to strive for - attention to details, the hard work to get bowlers to make the minor adjustments that raise their game, the ability to work the opposition out, and identifying right talent and then sticking with it.

 

We need a Cronje-Woolmer / Naseer-Fletcher / Border-Simmons / Ganguly-Wright type partnership to truly dominate cricket. The sacking of Kumble has pushed our team back. He was a real thinker of the game, someone who believed in planning & meticulous execution. 

They cant do that as they are busy making Tik Tok videos and cake smearing... priorities bhai

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13 minutes ago, LordPrabhzy said:

Reminds me of the 2002 tour to NZ where we were thrashed black and blue.... #throwback

At least in 2002 we won a match or two but in 2014 we were thrashed in ODIs, barring that tied game. Plus we missed the opportunities in test series as well to help McCullum score a triple & a double ton. 

NZ are deserved winners while Indians have a lot of issues which needs to be sorted out. 

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17 minutes ago, Stan AF said:

This is a fair assumption. Our batters barring Rohit cannot set big scores and our middle order is still a work in progress.

 

Bowlers are feeling the pressure because of the above two reasons.

don't think batsmen are too much at fault. if you can't defend 347 & 296, then it is more the fault of bowlers. Yeah batsman could have done a bit more in the final overs but they are inexperienced and would learn from these. 

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17 minutes ago, rtmohanlal said:

don't think batsmen are too much at fault. if you can't defend 347 & 296, then it is more the fault of bowlers. Yeah batsman could have done a bit more in the final overs but they are inexperienced and would learn from these. 

We missed out on scoring more runs in the death overs. NZ, England, etc ODI pitches are for new generation with explosive batsmen. 300 is not a good score on these pitches and against their line up. There is a reason they were the two WC finalist. They play a completely different brand of cricket in ODIs. If you are content with 300, with player going at run a ball in middle and 8 per over at death, you will never win against these two teams

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Have a bad feeling about tests -

  • Mayank is a walking wicket at the moment
  • Shaw is too trigger-happy (even Sehwag struggled in NZ)
  • if Kohli plays 5 bowlers like he did in the home season with Jadeja-Ash-Saha at 6,7,8 - that might leave us thin on batting
  • Jadeja and Ashwin are likely to struggle on flat/seaming tracks as they have done in past before.
  • Fast bowling also looking shaky - Bumrah still feeling his way back, Ishant injured.

Pujara, Kohli, Rahane will have to play out of their skin and Shami has to really come to the party if we have to win this one! Gill could be the trump card, but am pretty sure Brat will bench him. Even sub-par Kuldeep would have been better than finger spinners, but that boat has sailed.

 

Hope we don't get to hear Kohli repeat 'Matches were closer than final scoreline suggests' 

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1 hour ago, Cricwala said:

South Africa in 90s was a well-drilled team. Only Donald and Pollock were the really gifted bowlers in their team. But the rest of their attack - Fannie, McMillan, Klusener, Craig Mathews, Symcox, Kallis, Cronje (a batting 'trundler' who still kept it very-2 tight) - had their plans, kept their intensity levels high and their effectiveness as a bowling group was greater than sum of their parts.  That is what we need to strive for - attention to details, the hard work to get bowlers to make the minor adjustments that raise their game, the ability to work the opposition out, and identifying right talent and then sticking with it.

 

We need a Cronje-Woolmer / Naseer-Fletcher / Border-Simmons / Ganguly-Wright type partnership to truly dominate cricket. The sacking of Kumble has pushed our team back. He was a real thinker of the game, someone who believed in planning & meticulous execution. 

Fanie de Villiers was a gifted bowler in his own right, but apart from that you make a very good point.

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3 hours ago, FischerTal said:

his pace is not that impressive though. Seam bowlers usually tend to be 140+. he has been mostly 135. at that pace, you need to be a swing bowler.

 

Saini was bowling 138 k to 146 k even today in his first spell.

 

He is a very rhythm dependent bowler. Lost his rhythm and this resulted in reduced accuracy and pace in his later spells.

 

He is a two paced bowler depending on his rhythm .... bowls 140 k to 148 k / 152 k sometimes and 135 k to 146 k on other days. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, Norman said:

BJP lost , u19 team lost, senior team got blanked...... :phew:

 

10 hours ago, rollingstoned said:

Not been a great week allround. 

India beat hockey world #1 and WC champs Belgium in a high quality match (FIH pro league). This after we beat the Dutch twice. Beating Belgium was special, an ATG team playing at full strength. Before the match I was worrying about margin of defeat. Next match we lost 2-3 but fought hard. Cheer up. 

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14 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

Saini was bowling 138 k to 146 k even today in his first spell.

 

He is a very rhythm dependent bowler. Lost his rhythm and this resulted in reduced accuracy and pace in his later spells.

 

He is a two paced bowler depending on his rhythm .... bowls 140 k to 148 k / 152 k sometimes and 135 k to 146 k on other days. 

 

 

He was bowling short at 136k n getting thrashed.

He didn't bowl well today.

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