Harsha Bhogle on Pants inclusion

[Laaloo]

 

Also tweeted,

”Am waiting to see Shreya Ghosal left out of a major concert because the other girl could strum the guitar a bit better”.

 

and then he deleted the tweet. Seems like everyone and their mothers are going after Pant hope he scores a big one and shuts these losers up 

Edited February 21, 2020 by Laaloo

[putrevus]

Pant should never have been dropped during home season either.He did nothing wrong to lose his place to Saha,But there is no way Pant should be sitting for Saha in SENA countries.

 

Saha is bad with bat, he is like no 9 or no10 in these conditions.

[jf1gp_1]

Virat logic

Rahul (keeper batsman) > Pant (keeper batsman) 

Pant  (keeper batsman) > Saha(keeper batsman) 

But Rahul isnt in test squad hence pant in test

 

[putrevus]

I am glad that Rahul is not in tests, he does not merit his place in tests.He fits into odis as a keeper only.

 

Pant is full time keeper and he did very well in tests.Pant got his chances in odis and t20s but he has lot of work to do in those formats if he has to bat in middle order.

[jf1gp_1]

So Shaw merits a test opening slot over Rahul ?

 

[putrevus]

Shaw is new like Gill they both have to get enough chances to prove their worth.Rahul should not be anywhere close to the test team after his stinking performances for two years.

[sandeep]

3 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said:

So Shaw merits a test opening slot over Rahul ?

 

Rahul repeatedly failed when given an extended run, and now Shaw is ahead of him on the most glorious exalted pecking order, so never mind Rahul's form, or Shaw's flashiness - Shaw is going to get a run now.

 

On topic of the thread - Bhogle has a fair point - but its a horses for courses pick.  And a  bit of a gamble.  The temptation for those extra runs, especially when our tail isn't very productive was too much to resist.

 

Now if Pant drops a crucial catch, you know all hells' going to break loose.

[putrevus]

1 minute ago, sandeep said:

Rahul repeatedly failed when given an extended run, and now Shaw is ahead of him on the most glorious exalted pecking order, so never mind Rahul's form, or Shaw's flashiness - Shaw is going to get a run now.

 

On topic of the thread - Bhogle has a fair point - but its a horses for courses pick.  And a  bit of a gamble.  The temptation for those extra runs, especially when our tail isn't very productive was too much to resist.

 

Now if Pant drops a crucial catch, you know all hells' going to break loose.

Saha has never dropped a catch???

[First class]

26 minutes ago, jf1gp_1 said:

So Shaw merits a test opening slot over Rahul ?

 

With such a great form Rahul is in, he should have been in test , ahead of Shaw and I agree with Harsha, the best keeper in the world should have been  the keeper in the game of the specialist, TEST. 

[Vickydev]

1 hour ago, Laaloo said:

 

Also tweeted,

”Am waiting to see Shreya Ghosal left out of a major concert because the other girl could strum the guitar a bit better”.

 

and then he deleted the tweet. Seems like everyone and their mothers are going after Pant hope he scores a big one and shuts these losers up 

It pretty much tells you everything about Harsha Bhogle as an analyst. He is garbage. Not even domestic teams play keepers if they can't contribute with the bat, no matter how good they might be. There is not much advantage being the best keeper in the world tbh, as long as you are competent it should be fine. Doesn't need to drop/miss dollies that's all and Pant has been more than decent.

However Pant with his style of play can be a game changer with the bat in hand. That's invaluable and must be encouraged.

[jf1gp_1]

26 minutes ago, First class said:

With such a great form Rahul is in, he should have been in test , ahead of Shaw and I agree with Harsha, the best keeper in the world should have been  the keeper in the game of the specialist, TEST. 

exactly specially after this LINK

[sandeep]

44 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Saha has never dropped a catch???

Saha has dropped ONE gettable chance that I remember - and that was after suffering an injury in that game that resulted in him missing a bunch of games after.

 

Pant, by contrast, has regularly dropped catches.  There is simply no dispute or argument on the reliability of their glovework.  With Saha, if a drop happens, its an anomaly.  With Rishabh, its expected.  And that's not even taking into consideration the half-chances that Saha would be expected to take, that Pant, with his poor footwork, would only make unsuccessful "acrobatic dives" for, only to perform a catchy little kip-up to get off the ground.  

 

Don't be seduced by Pant's youth, his obvious batting potential.  When talking about glovework, Saha is Amitabh Bachchan while Pant is barely Shakti Kapoor.

[sandeep]

47 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Saha has never dropped a catch???

I'm sorry, I replied to your post without seeing who its written by.  Now that I see that it was written by the blind infatuated defender of Virat's captaincy, I regret wasting my breath.

[sandeep]

30 minutes ago, First class said:

With such a great form Rahul is in, he should have been in test , ahead of Shaw and I agree with Harsha, the best keeper in the world should have been  the keeper in the game of the specialist, TEST. 

The same logic that dictates picking Pant over Saha - the argument for 'horses for courses', "best possible team" on the day etc - ought to dictate that a Rahul or even a Gill is more likely to do the opener's job in NZ conditions over Shaw. 

 

But Virat and his yes-sir-my-captain-anything-you-say Coach, have shown a consistent and remarkable ability to deploy a dizzying variety of reasons and conflicting reasons in their selection policy.  Its the primary factor stopping India from being a truly ATG dominant side at the moment.

[SK_IH]

What Harsha Bhogle thinks or doesn't think should not matter or even discussed. 

[zen]

On one hand, you have to deal with Kohli-Shastri strategies, on the other hand, you have Bhogle-Manjrekar w/ their hogwash 

 

Ind fans

Edited February 21, 2020 by zen

[Laaloo]

8 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Saha has dropped ONE gettable chance that I remember - and that was after suffering an injury in that game that resulted in him missing a bunch of games after.

 

Pant, by contrast, has regularly dropped catches.  There is simply no dispute or argument on the reliability of their glovework.  With Saha, if a drop happens, its an anomaly.  With Rishabh, its expected.  And that's not even taking into consideration the half-chances that Saha would be expected to take, that Pant, with his poor footwork, would only make unsuccessful "acrobatic dives" for, only to perform a catchy little kip-up to get off the ground.  

 

Don't be seduced by Pant's youth, his obvious batting potential.  When talking about glovework, Saha is Amitabh Bachchan while Pant is barely Shakti Kapoor.

No doubt that pant needs more keeping to spinners in the subcontinent, but what wrong has he done overseas while keeping? Stop making **** up for the sake of argument. 

[ShoonyaSifar]

If Bhogle really had the best interests of the team in mind, he should have directly named Kohli-Shastri in his tweet. But he’s attacking Pant’s skills than going after Kohli and his bizarre selections.

[sandeep]

4 minutes ago, Laaloo said:

but what wrong has he done overseas while keeping?

Start watching more games, and you'll see.  He has dropped chances in Eng/Aus already. 

 

He is consistently off-balance with his footwork against pace and spin - and as a result almost always 'late' getting his gloves on the ball, never in optimal position - hence the need for more "spectacular" looking dives.  Don't argue if you don't pay attention and watch the games.  Scorecards and cricinfo articles don't give you the facts - and watching youtube videos is entertainment, not education.

Edited February 21, 2020 by sandeep

[sandeep]

1 minute ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

If Bhogle really had the best interests of the team in mind, he should have directly named Kohli-Shastri in his tweet. But he’s attacking Pant’s skills than going after Kohli and his bizarre selections.

He's not attacking Pant - he's questioning the logic of not picking the best gloveman.  

 

Even on fan forums, folks need to learn to attack the idea and argument, not the man.  Think about it.