GautiMaan Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 Only if he doesnt show his bambi stripes by picking Shardul
Majestic Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 Virat is a far better captain and leader. He has total 33 wins which is highest for any Asian captain and that puts him as the greatest Asian captain of all-time. Rahane is good but this team was built by Kohli. Kohli was the one who built a fast bowling culture in India and the results are there for everyone to see. IMO, he is a GOAT cricketer of all-time and also up there among the best captains and certainly a GOAT Asian captain. vishalvirsingh 1
raki05 Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/29/2020 at 4:12 PM, gakgupta said: What are the chances?? zero.. Anyone know that Rahana captained India 3 times in test matches and we won all the 3 times..(2 times with Australia and once with Afghanistan)?? If rahana wins remaining 2 matches...will he be considered over Virat?? (Only for Test Matches) Rahana or Rehana... express bowling 1
ravishingravi Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 The overwhelming importance of personalities and lack of objectivity will always hurt the Indian team. Every team has a golden run when it gets really talented bunch of cricketers together. but you need right leadership which propels it to the next level. Seems like this is an obvious decision. But I guess we have wait for a few more losses to build a case for this. Horse would have been bolted by then.
Serpico Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 Ajinkya Rahane is brave, smart, calm, and he has the respect of his team - Ian Chappell It was no surprise that Ajinkya Rahane captained India flawlessly at the MCG; anyone who saw him in charge in Dharamsala in 2017 would have recognised a man born to lead cricket teams. There were a lot of similarities between that 2017 match and the one at the MCG. Firstly it was between the same two highly competitive rivals, then there was the valuable first-innings lower-order contribution from Ravindra Jadeja, and finally Rahane aggressively accumulating the required runs in a nervy pursuit of a moderate victory total. The moment that caught my attention in the Dharamsala match was the time Rahane called on debutant left-arm wristspinner Kuldeep Yadav when David Warner and Steve Smith were involved in a century partnership. "This is a brave move," I thought, and it turned out to be a very smart one. Yadav quickly claimed the wicket of Warner - expertly caught by Rahane at first slip - and this prompted a five-wicket slide. That's part of Rahane's success as a skipper: he's brave and smart. However, there's much more to his leadership than just those two important qualities. He is calm when things could easily get out of hand. He has earned the respect of his team-mates, one of the most important aspects of good captaincy. And he gets runs when they are needed, which adds to the respect his team has for him. India knew they would be missing the highly valued skills of Virat Kohli following the first Test. Adding to the weight on Rahane's shoulders, they suffered an abysmal collapse in Adelaide. As if that wasn't enough, Rahane was responsible for Kohli's run-out in the first innings in that game, when India were easing into a dominant position. Despite all those deflating factors, India strode onto the MCG a week later - after Tim Paine had won the toss - as though they were leading 1-0. In part that was because they were aware the Australian opening partnership was in turmoil. They also knew that one man couldn't replicate the supreme deeds of Kohli and it was going to take an extra effort from all concerned to overcome his absence. And finally, there was the captain they greatly respected; they wanted to play well for Rahane. And boy, didn't they do that. There was Jasprit Bumrah, excelling as usual at the MCG, ambushing batsmen regularly. R Ashwin, with his new-found confidence in Australian conditions, exerted his influence over Smith, a vital early wicket that further boosted India's confidence. Inspired by the seniors, the debutants, Shubman Gill and Mohammed Siraj, made significant contributions as they adjusted quickly to Australian conditions. Despite those valuable performances, the one that turned the match firmly in India's favour was the Johnny Mullagh medal-winning contribution from Rahane. The captain's century came at a time when India could easily have faded to a two-nil deficit, and it was this performance that gave his team the conviction that victory was attainable. A former resident of Mumbai told me his wife lip-read Rahane say the words "Come on, India," when he reached his MCG century. That is another thing that defines Rahane's captaincy: he's all about the team. At a time when aggressive, proactive international captaincy is in short supply, India are fortunate to have two leaders who both understand the value of taking wickets over containing the opposition. This tantalising series is far from over. India still have concerns with yet another fast-bowling injury and an opening batsman in a quandary. However, despite coming off a disastrous collapse in Adelaide, along with the departure of their best batsman and the loss of two leading fast bowlers, India have fewer selection headaches than Australia. It's helpful that they have a strong, calm leader and a vibrant spirit that has built up under the Kohli-Rahane-Ravi Shastri coalition. If India do go on to repeat their last tour's success in Australia, the Mullagh medal won't be the only gong Rahane receives.
Lone Wolf Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Serpico said: Ajinkya Rahane is brave, smart, calm, and he has the respect of his team - Ian Chappell It was no surprise that Ajinkya Rahane captained India flawlessly at the MCG; anyone who saw him in charge in Dharamsala in 2017 would have recognised a man born to lead cricket teams. There were a lot of similarities between that 2017 match and the one at the MCG. Firstly it was between the same two highly competitive rivals, then there was the valuable first-innings lower-order contribution from Ravindra Jadeja, and finally Rahane aggressively accumulating the required runs in a nervy pursuit of a moderate victory total. The moment that caught my attention in the Dharamsala match was the time Rahane called on debutant left-arm wristspinner Kuldeep Yadav when David Warner and Steve Smith were involved in a century partnership. "This is a brave move," I thought, and it turned out to be a very smart one. Yadav quickly claimed the wicket of Warner - expertly caught by Rahane at first slip - and this prompted a five-wicket slide. That's part of Rahane's success as a skipper: he's brave and smart. However, there's much more to his leadership than just those two important qualities. He is calm when things could easily get out of hand. He has earned the respect of his team-mates, one of the most important aspects of good captaincy. And he gets runs when they are needed, which adds to the respect his team has for him. India knew they would be missing the highly valued skills of Virat Kohli following the first Test. Adding to the weight on Rahane's shoulders, they suffered an abysmal collapse in Adelaide. As if that wasn't enough, Rahane was responsible for Kohli's run-out in the first innings in that game, when India were easing into a dominant position. Despite all those deflating factors, India strode onto the MCG a week later - after Tim Paine had won the toss - as though they were leading 1-0. In part that was because they were aware the Australian opening partnership was in turmoil. They also knew that one man couldn't replicate the supreme deeds of Kohli and it was going to take an extra effort from all concerned to overcome his absence. And finally, there was the captain they greatly respected; they wanted to play well for Rahane. And boy, didn't they do that. There was Jasprit Bumrah, excelling as usual at the MCG, ambushing batsmen regularly. R Ashwin, with his new-found confidence in Australian conditions, exerted his influence over Smith, a vital early wicket that further boosted India's confidence. Inspired by the seniors, the debutants, Shubman Gill and Mohammed Siraj, made significant contributions as they adjusted quickly to Australian conditions. Despite those valuable performances, the one that turned the match firmly in India's favour was the Johnny Mullagh medal-winning contribution from Rahane. The captain's century came at a time when India could easily have faded to a two-nil deficit, and it was this performance that gave his team the conviction that victory was attainable. A former resident of Mumbai told me his wife lip-read Rahane say the words "Come on, India," when he reached his MCG century. That is another thing that defines Rahane's captaincy: he's all about the team. At a time when aggressive, proactive international captaincy is in short supply, India are fortunate to have two leaders who both understand the value of taking wickets over containing the opposition. This tantalising series is far from over. India still have concerns with yet another fast-bowling injury and an opening batsman in a quandary. However, despite coming off a disastrous collapse in Adelaide, along with the departure of their best batsman and the loss of two leading fast bowlers, India have fewer selection headaches than Australia. It's helpful that they have a strong, calm leader and a vibrant spirit that has built up under the Kohli-Rahane-Ravi Shastri coalition. If India do go on to repeat their last tour's success in Australia, the Mullagh medal won't be the only gong Rahane receives. IAN Chappell praised Rahane back in 2017 itself. In my view if we win The Gabba Test somehow.. He should be made permanent skipper... Coz that will be the definition of Best in The world atm.
ravishingravi Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 it was obvious three years back to me and many others watching. But real success is not destined for all.
putrevus Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 First Rahane needs to show up in more than one test as batsman in a series. vishalvirsingh 1
vishalvirsingh Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 On 12/31/2020 at 2:30 PM, Majestic said: Virat is a far better captain and leader. He has total 33 wins which is highest for any Asian captain and that puts him as the greatest Asian captain of all-time. Rahane is good but this team was built by Kohli. Kohli was the one who built a fast bowling culture in India and the results are there for everyone to see. IMO, he is a GOAT cricketer of all-time and also up there among the best captains and certainly a GOAT Asian captain. AS of today Virat is probably the BEST BATSMAN in the world who can get selected in any Team in tests/odi/t20 team as a player. IS Rahane as good as Virat as a batsman ?? answer is obvious. As of today I can count at least 5 better TEST batsman than Rahane , at least 15 better ODI batsman than Rahane and at least 20 better T20 Batsman than Rahane in INDIA only. Rahane is lucky to be playing for INDIA. HIs place in Tests were a question mark. Had Rohit been fit and had Rohit come from day 1 , he would have come as Vice captain for Tests and captained India after Virat would have left to meet Anushka. As of today Rohit Sharma, Shubhman Gill, Mayank Agarwal , KL Rahul , Shikhar Dhawan are better test batsman than RAHANE on Pitches that are not too Green. Some of you may even say that Vihari and Pujara are also better Test batsman than Rahane , though I would say that Rahane /pujara and Hanuma are in the same category but on GREEN TRACKS , the answers could change, Rohit, Gill , Mayank , KL , Shikhar are Stroke makers and on Test Pitches that are a bit flattish /Patta and against Spinners , all these 5 batsman are DEADLY batsman. KL and SHikhar are not playing for INDIA , still on flat pitches , they are next to ROHIT and VIRAT. Long story short Rahane is a temporary Captain for INDIA and He seems to be very smart and shrewd but he may/may not be a certainty in an Indian Test Team. Virat has built Indian team and we have started beating opposition teams in SENA and west Indies and in global tournaments. Lets not compare Rahane to Virat so soon. I am not sure if Rahane will be playing in Indian test team in 2022. putrevus 1
asterix Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) We’re you not surprised that Rahane brought (woke up) Saini (a debutant Fast bowler) on the 30th over of the innings, when the ball might’ve lost its shine? Saini started nervously but managed to break the partnership in his second over and got his rhythm. Rahane’s field placing allowed the batsmen to settle down and score runs. One one side of the field he had two slow (suspect) fielders like Bhumrah & Ashwin (both screwed up to miss a run out chance). He kept delaying to bring Jaddu on bowling... Jaddu immediately started getting turn and bounce when he came on. Jaddu got very few overs yesterday. In the last over of the day too, Rahane replaced him and brought Siraj. It seems he’s putting too much faith or load. On Siraj & Ashwin and might end up tiring them out. Didn't had much faith on this bearded Mickey Mouse. He got lucky in the last match... Shown his true colours pretty soon... Edited January 7, 2021 by asterix zen, vishalvirsingh, kruiser and 1 other 1 3
Samcric Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 In fact Warne mentioned this very early that Jaddu will be more effective on a slow surface because of his natural speed. Ashwin's speed was on the slower side on a wicket that lacked pace anyways - gave plenty of time to the batsmen to go back and play from backfoot. I think we will see Jadeja rushing the batsmen a bit more. asterix 1
Trichromatic Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 Jaddu is being treated like part timer. Cricketics, asterix, sandsaims and 1 other 4
goose Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Trichromatic said: Jaddu is being treated like part timer. by India or Australia?
Sean Bradley Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 Noticed these things and I posted these points on the match thread, there was a long on when ashwin was bowling and both labbu and Smith were allowed easy singles, Jadeja who could have been very effective, never Bowled till the last hour or so, some bizarre strategy by Rahane, hope that he's wakes up on day 2 and doesn't repeat his mistakes. asterix 1
vishalvirsingh Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, Cricspin said: Yes, It seems he doesnt have much confidence in Jadeja taking wickets in Australia. He did not bowl him much last test either. We have 5 bowlers for a reason and need to use them. Jadeja should be bowling more overs and keep one side tight like he usually does. He was also bowling well in the last match for the little chance he got. His distribution of work load among bowlers were not Impressive. Saini and Jaddu were under utilized ( 7 over and 3 overs out of 56 overs) , normally one bowler gets under utilized but here 2 were used little. getting boom and Ashwin to bowl a little more is expected as they are the main strike bowlers but Siraj was bowled 2 to 3 overs extra today ( among 56 overs). asterix 1
putrevus Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 Even in second test Rahane was very late to give the ball to Siraj. Rahane looks like a captain who over works his main bowlers and underbowls his lesser bowlers. That is not a good sign at all. Indian has five genuine bowlers who can share work load equally. asterix and Cricketics 2
Tibarn Posted January 7, 2021 Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) Last test it was the same thing, Jadeja hardly bowled. Rahane overbowled both Bumrah and Ashwin in that match. FWIR, Bumrah was so gassed that he bowled 2 balls at 129 kph. Jadeja needs to be brought on vs Smith. He has a weakness against Left-arm spin Edited January 7, 2021 by Tibarn asterix 1
putrevus Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 He is tiring the fast bowlers out.Saini is completely under bowled.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk asterix 1
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