Who is the Most Overrated Indian player on this forum ??

[Ankit_sharma03]

Please mentioned your reasons below . Just including players who have been a topic of debate in last few years . 

I havent included guys like Chahal or rahane since they are not highly rated on this forum anyways 

Edited March 18, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03]

My choice wud be Kuldeep - guys like KL n chahal have been called out for being mental midget but if anyone is mentally fragile its kuldeep. I feel he is made out to be some warne on this forum whereas he isnt  even close to brad hogg as of now 

[Ankit_sharma03]

• Mayank i feel is technically as bad as shaw or KL infact ill say more and his LOI skills are overrate

[Ankit_sharma03]

Reason for Pujara name- i feel he is one guy who has extreme views - some who massively overrate him and someone underrate him a lot 

[zen]

Voted for Ashwin from those on the poll (guys like Rohit are not listed) 

 

• Appears disabled without those Ind pitches 
• Mostly successful v left handers (so if a line up has no left handers, would he not do well?) 
• Relatively poor in SENA among spinners (only Sundar avgs higher than him in recent period as I recall from posting stats somewhere) 

 

 

PS some old stats posted on other threads

 

 

 

In SENA since 2018

 

Primary team India

Opposition team Australia  or England  or New Zealand  or South Africa

Home or away away (home of opposition)

Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 2018

Type of bowler (by style) spin bowler

Qualifications wickets taken greater than or equal to 3

Ordered by bowling average (ascending)

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	Overs	Mdns	Runs	Wkts	BBI	BBM	Ave	Econ	SR	5	10
GH Vihari	2018-2021	9	7	45.3	9	132	5	3/37	3/38	26.40	2.90	54.6	0	0
RA Jadeja	2018-2021	6	10	218.3	39	609	23	4/62	7/258	26.47	2.78	57.0	0	0
Kuldeep Yadav	2018-2019	2	2	40.5	7	143	5	5/99	5/99	28.60	3.50	49.0	1	0
R Ashwin	2018-2021	11	20	466.1	89	1169	39	4/55	7/121	29.97	2.50	71.7	0	0
Washington Sundar	2021-2021	1	2	49.0	7	169	4	3/89	4/169	42.25	3.44	73.5	0	0

 

Edited March 18, 2021 by zen

[Ankit_sharma03]

10 minutes ago, zen said:

Voted for Ashwin from those on the poll (guys like Rohit are not listed) 

 

• Appears disabled without those Ind pitches 
• Mostly successful v left handers (so if a line up has no left handers, would he not do well?) 
• Relatively poor outside Asia (only Sundar avgs lower than him in recent period as I recall from posting stats somewhere) 

 

 

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[Trichromatic]

Pandya and it's not even close. 

[Khota]

26 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Pandya and it's not even close. 

Ditto

[Lone Wolf]

Pujara according to me.  He has been extremely mediocre since 2019 

[Jay]

Pandya,. Rahul taluint and kullydeep

 

 

[Majestic]

Rishabh Pant in LOIs. He has done nothing in LOIs till now.

 

Also, KL Rahul. He has been playing for 5 years now and still hasn't established himself across all formats. 

Edited March 18, 2021 by Majestic

[Adamant]

Pandya is definitely the most overrated player here, by this i don’t mean that he is a liability or something, he is a must in our lois team but he has many weaknesses, some posters believe that he is a top quality bat which i don't think is true. As we saw in the last game too he can't accelerate against quick bowlers when they start bowling on the off side or when they use short pitch stuff. 
I have seen only two Indian allrounders since 2000 who got a crazy amount of hype, one was Irfan Pathan second is Hardik and i truely believe that based on pure talent Irfan was atleast a level ahead of Pandya, there are people who compare him with dev, LOL, i just want him to equal Irfan , that alone would be enough.

[Straight Drive]

Pandya

Babar Azam

 

[Texan]

Among the options provided, I have to say Saini. At least everyone else in this list has done something of note during their international careers. Saini has so far done nothing. I hope he goes on to become a great cricketer, but as of now, I have to say him, especially after seeing the manner in which he was hyped up on this forum. 

[Norman]

Hardik Pandya


Navdeep Saini


Shardul Thakur the batsman after Gabba


Kuldeep Yadav

[Bigg Brother]

Obviously Hardik from those who plays more than 1 format and whose place is assured. Some people think he is some kind of messsiah and irreplaceable. Good player but nothing more than that..

[raki05]

why not kohli been there for his captaincy he is quite overrated for his captaincy. Pujara is quite overrated in-spite of his mediocre average overseas. Pandya is overrated due to his ipl exploits , as for main events he hardly played in his 5 years of career due to injury ,another example of how fitness is overrated even though you are matching captain standard of 6 packs and chiseled body. he performed well in his limited chances in odi and test but in t20 international he has yet to perform.

[SK_IH]

I ll also say Hardik. His performances have never been commensurate with the hype apart from may be in 2017. In comparison to let's say Iyer, who has a decent record but he is dismissed as a batsmen with many loopholes. 

[Yoda-esque]

Kl rahul

[Gollum]

Pujara. Not saying he isn't good but when comparisons with genuine ATGs (and GOAT contenders) crop up, really a joke. Avg 29 in Eng, 20 in NZ, 20 in WI, 31 in RSA.....read more like Thirimanne's stats than those of Dravid/YK. 

 

Had one very good tour of Aus, but absolutely dismal in SENAW otherwise. Goes missing across full tours like Eng/Aus 2014-15, NZ 2014, WI 2016 etc, zero utility. Very limited, come on even Ishant had better batting numbers last time both played CC. These days he can't even handle spin, declined massively post 2019 and the only reason he is still in the team is cos of past reputation. Not even HTB these days. Extremely limited, can't bowl/field, poor fitness, can't play other formats and even his batting has zero flair.......ugliness and passive approach makes cricket unwatchable when he is batting. India has produced several HTBs, limited batsmen etc. but never such an ugly and uninspiring one like him, he is the kind of person who will drive kids away from cricket. 

 

Deserves credit for maximizing his lack of talent/ability, and I will be the first one to admit that he has been very clutch/courageous, outstanding on turners in the past (peak Che is one of the best ever batsmen in SC conditions, ahead of many ATGs). Saying he is overrated doesn't mean he is bad per se, he is an overachiever and I always respect that category. But hopefully no youngster imitates his batting style in the future.....ok to be a grafter but please not an eyesore. 

Edited March 18, 2021 by Gollum