Gavaskar - Pant breached the line of between carefree and careless , Also why target pujara alone ???

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 hours ago, express bowling said:

Why does Mr.Gavaskar criticize only youngsters and soft targets and have nothing say about the Kohlis and Dhonis  ????

 

We need some analysts with balls.

Always Easy still remember he criticised KL Rahul for his tattoos when he was young n defended dhawan overseas failure n t20 failure, KL was in his younger days. 

[DeepSpace]

Pujara criticism is valid, but he also helped us win the Gabba test. Chokohlibaba has done zip for a long time. He needs to drop himself, before he talks about dropping others. And while I will not question the position of Pant in the team given his talent, but his constant dance down the track, swinging and missing time and time again spoke poorly about strategy. There was no method to madness. What works in Australia, does not work in England. India was in no position to win, just had to bat the day out.

[aditya19]

pant plays at 6 ..why would you need a boring batsman there...if he gets quick 40-50 at that position consistently its more than enough.

[express bowling]

3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Always Easy still remember he criticised KL Rahul for his tattoos when he was young n defended dhawan overseas failure n t20 failure, KL was in his younger days. 

 

 

I have a lot of respect for Gavaskar the batsman.

 

I have very little respect for Gavaskar the analyst and commentator after 2010. 

 

[ShoonyaSifar]

Not surprised at all.

 

Gavaskar was Shastri's guru in Mumbai, and Indian teams and later in his media career.

 

He is part of the Kohli-Shastri clique ruling Indian cricket. Expecting him to be fair in his assessment is foolish

[Real McCoy]

This has been the bane of Indian cricket isn't it. Former greats acting like vultures on easy prey than talk openly about rocking the senior boat

[prudent_kreeda]

On 6/27/2021 at 4:49 AM, bowl_out said:

Pant played a bad shot at a time where it was essential to save his wicket.

But he is the least of our concerns now. Sack Kohli as captain and look beyond Pujara for No. 3

Assemble a new No. 3,4,5 over the next couple of years. 

 

Pant the unconventional attacking bat , if falls after scoring 40 odd runs and also losing last batsmen in Jaddu  in trying to attack is questioned . Defence is not his forte. 

By that logic - Pujara is supposed to be the wall of defense. If he does not do his job , why he cannot be questioned ? What is his worth if he cannot help in taking the match to a draw which is his forte .. but he fails in both innings ?

Why pure batsmen like Kohli , Pujara , Rahane  are not  questioned more for such utter crap show ?  these batsmen should take the blame for WTC loss more than anyone else .

[coffee_rules]

I don't think many changes will be rung in the first two tests. Pujara will get dropped or moved up to make Vihari/Mayank/Gill to be #3. Eng has been a burial ground for Indian cricketers, Kohli didn't feature in 2011, much. 2014, 2018 he has one success, so does Pujara. Pujara's place is in deep trouble, Pant is nowhere in the radar, to make this about Pant. 

[raki05]

In salo se jab Pujara k baare me puchengey to pant ko criticize karengey, jab rahane k baarey me puchoge to Gill ko criticize karengey. Sab k sab bikey hai, akash chopra also shares the same though as Gavaskar.

[Lord]

rare Pant supporting article.Goes overboard but I'll take it

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ind-vs-nz-wtc-final-in-rishabh-pant-defiance-lies-his-defence-1267808

 

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Just before he entered the Indian dressing room on Wednesday afternoon, Rishabh Pant punched the thick wooden door hard with his bare-knuckled right fist.

 

Pant had just got out attempting to slog Trent Boult, getting a top-edge that flew high to backward point. Henry Nicholls, running backwards, took the catch of the final to silence the Indian fans in the crowd at the Rose Bowl. The magnificent catch, one of the turning points of the final, didn't get as much attention as the shot that Pant played. The question still being asked is: was Pant's bold approach appropriate?

 

Pant himself was angry. As he charged Boult and the ball flew towards Nicholls, he would have known he had made a mistake. However, ever since he had arrived at the crease early in the first session after Virat Kohli and Cheteshwar Pujara fell in quick succession, Pant had been walking the high wire. Yet, it was only those outside who had their hearts in their mouths. For the stockily built Pant, who India's bowling coach Bharat Arun describes as a "pocket dynamo", his various advances towards the bowler were calculated acts of blunting the opposition attack.

 

Pant's plan and instinct was to play every ball. At times it backfired. Off the ninth ball he faced, Kyle Jamieson pitched a delivery on length with a scrambled seam. Jamieson had induced edges and lbws with similar deliveries and lengths, which was on the fullish side. Pant attempted a push to the off side away from his body. The outside edge flew straight to second slip where Tim Southee made a mess of an easy catch. Pant was on 5. India were 82 for 4.

 

The Indian fans celebrated the drop. Southee banged the turf. Jamieson walked away, doing well to hide any emotions towards his senior team-mate, who had now dropped not one but two catches in the match. Dale Steyn, one of ESPNcricinfo's experts for this Test, tweeted wondering whether Southee had dropped the WTC mace.

 

Pant seemed unmoved. As Jamieson tested Ajinkya Rahane with short stuff, at the other end Pant was doing mock drills: ducking, swaying, hooking, pulling, ramping.

 

Then it was Southee's turn with the ball again. A delivery before the first hour into the morning, Southee swung one into Pant, who lunged forward toward the off stump. If you freeze the replay at that point, you can see Pant's front toe, the right one, pointing towards cover - as if he was going to drive it square on the off side; instead with a loose left leg and meaty wrists, he flicked the ball to the right of mid-on for a boundary. Even Rahane was caught by surprise as he had to quickly move out of the way.

 

When Neil Wagner replaced Southee, Pant charged him the third ball of the over, to slap a firm four. Next ball, he quickly moved into position to perfectly defend it under his eyeline, and exchanged a cool stare with the left-arm quick. Both men would engage in fencing duel.

 

Rishabh Pant played his shots, as only he does  Getty Images

 

Pant jumped out of his crease again for a streaky outside edge against an away swinging delivery that flew to the right of gully for four. Wagner had a curious smirk. Next delivery, slightly fuller, again an away swinger, Pant charged and this time missed. Rahane walked up to Pant. From afar, Pant seemed to indicate to his vice-captain that if he stayed in the crease, there was a greater danger of the ball taking the outside edge.

 

Next over Rahane was gone. India just ahead by just 77 runs, with 25 minutes to lunch. What would Pant do now? He jumped once again and went for an almighty heave against Wagner and missed completely. Wagner scratched his chin with an expression that said: 'What the hell?' Was it rash? Crazy? Pant might tell you: it was not an act of defiance. It was his instrument of defence.

 

Immediately into the second session, Wagner went round the stumps to unleash his main weapon - the short ball. Six men were in position on the leg side: short leg, backward short leg, midwicket, deep square leg and two fine legs. Every time Wagner banged in short Pant pulled him - both on the front foot and the back foot. And he was pulling these balls into the ground.

 

One particular stroke showed how well Pant had understood the pitch and the bowler's plan: he reverse swatted Wagner for a single to third man with such disdain as if he was shooing a fly.

 

Rishabh Pant swats one away  PA Photos/Getty Images

 

Pitted against the meditative batting of Kane Williamson and Kohli in the first innings, it is easy to be critical of Pant's bating on Wednesday. Anarchic it might have seemed from outside, but Pant actually used his natural game to play to the situation. He was doing exactly what Kohli professed after the defeat: taking risks but in a calculated fashion. And he had to take risks. Both he and Ravindra Jadeja had battled hard to survive the first hour after lunch. Then Jadeja succumbed to sustained pressure. India's tail rarely wags. Pant did not have too many options, because otherwise there was every danger that India would end up with a far lesser lead. Recent evidence suggests the same. In the WTC, India have been bowled out 19 times. Only on four of those 19 occasions has the team batted more than 10 overs and added more than 50 runs after losing the seventh wicket.

 

Kohli himself was cautious about making too much of Pant's final shot on Wednesday. The Indian captain backed Pant, saying he was an "expressive" batter and India didn't want him to "lose his positivity or his optimism in changing the situation for the team", because that is his USP. "It's up to him to understand whether it was an error of judgement and rectify it moving forward because he has a long career with the Indian team, and certainly someone who could be a match maker for India on consistently many occasions in the future," Kohli said at the post-match media briefing.

 

This is not the first time Pant has played one stroke too many. It will not be the last time. The frustration from outside is because he himself raised the bar with his heroics in Australia, followed by the home series against England where he dug his heels in initially and then seized the momentum. He nearly did the same in Southampton, albeit in a different manner. Without his innings India potentially might have lost the battle well before lunch.

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

again no guts to question kohli

[mishra]

I agree with what Gavaskar said. Every word of it. 

 

But he comes out to have deliberately not said a lot of things. Better was expected from kohli, specially defensive field and batting by everyone on day 5 and 6

[Khota]

When was the last time Gavaskar critiscised Rahane? Hippocrate.

[New guy]

On 6/27/2021 at 10:29 PM, aditya19 said:

pant plays at 6 ..why would you need a boring batsman there...if he gets quick 40-50 at that position consistently its more than enough.

Plus he is one of a kind and a game changer we have. Why tinker with him and make him safe like others? He is going to be a game changer many times with his approach. So we should excuse when sometimes the same approach back fores 

[nevada]

Yet he was the top scorer for the innings. If the so called specialist batsmen had also breached the line, we might have ended up with 70-80  runs more. 

[nevada]

14 hours ago, Lord said:

rare Pant supporting article.Goes overboard but I'll take it

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ind-vs-nz-wtc-final-in-rishabh-pant-defiance-lies-his-defence-1267808

 

 

 

Excellent article. Nothing overboard about it.

[Vk1]

old prick asansol blaming pant as always

[Lord]

2 hours ago, nevada said:

Yet he was the top scorer for the innings. If the so called specialist batsmen had also breached the line, we might have ended up with 70-80  runs more. 

 

We needed one of Pujara,Rahane,Kohli to bat out the session,thats it.

[Vk1]

15 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

again no guts to question kohli

akash chopra is a commercial guy.. he is there to make money.. no two ways about it

[Sandeep99]

16 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

again no guts to question kohli

Such a sell out