Hardik Pandya mega discussion thread

[coffee_rules]

Agree with OP, he is a certified Minnow basher, should be given full licence

[zen]

1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

Agree with OP, he is a certified Minnow basher, should be given full licence

 

Every team becomes a minnow when SDP bats

 

[coffee_rules]

46 minutes ago, zen said:

 

Every team becomes a minnow when SDP bats

 

What happened in the Pak and NZ matches? Did he turn a Minnow player?

[zen]

6 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

What happened in the Pak and NZ matches? Did he turn a Minnow player?

 

v an inform Pak, highest SR for Ind and tried to make the most of limited balls; v NZ, came in at 48/4, to steer the ship. Because he spent some time in the middle, got close to his best touch, helping him in the next game 

 

In both the games, he could have been played up the order so Ind could have got close to 170 v Pak and not be 48/4 v NZ 

[bowl_out]

1 minute ago, zen said:

 

v an inform Pak, highest SR for Ind and tried to make the most of limited balls; v NZ, came in at 48/4, to steer the ship. Because he spent some time in the middle, got close to his best touch, helping him in the next game 

 

In both the games, he could have been played up the order so Ind could have got close to 170 v Pak and not be 48/4 v NZ 

 

These defenses are worse than what Khota bhai provides for Dhawan in T20s

[zen]

5 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

 

These defenses are worse than what Khota bhai provides for Dhawan in T20s

 

I can't help if people keep dumb expectations. V Pak, he came in with 13 balls to go. I guess, he is supposed to score a 50 there (when no one even had a SR like him). V NZ, he had to grind with 48/4. I guess, he should have scored a 100

 

[coffee_rules]

1 hour ago, zen said:

 

v an inform Pak, highest SR for Ind and tried to make the most of limited balls; v NZ, came in at 48/4, to steer the ship. Because he spent some time in the middle, got close to his best touch, helping him in the next game 

 

In both the games, he could have been played up the order so Ind could have got close to 170 v Pak and not be 48/4 v NZ 

IOW he needs a platform cushion to tee off. Highest SR 11 (8) at death means dog poop. Even SKY at top order made 11 (8) which is considered a failure, with nobody even noticed his score

[zen]

Just now, coffee_rules said:

IOW he needs a platform cushion to tee off. Highest SR 11 (8) at death means dog poop. Even SKY at top order made 11 (8) which is considered a failure, with nobody even noticed his score

 

When you play in the top order, you have the cushion of wkts in hand and tons of balls remaining. Batting in death overs esp. in the last two overs can be a lottery. Do not forget that as soon as Afridi came back to bowl, he removed Kohli who had played 49 balls. Jadeja went at 13 off 13. Just walking in, SDP actually took 17 runs (2 4s + got an overthrow for 4 as well), of Afridi's over. Got out going for a 6 in the 20th over. There is nothing to criticize. 

 

 

[Khota]

@zen you are mostly avery sensible poster. Just stop it now.

[Trichromatic]

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/india-in-australia-2020-21-1223867/australia-vs-india-2nd-t20i-1223953/full-scorecard

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/england-tour-of-india-2020-21-1243364/india-vs-england-5th-t20i-1243392/full-scorecard

 

Has he ever played a knock where team had avg score midway and he lived upto his reputation by accelerating it to good score? How many times has he done that while chasing? Something similar to what Asif Ali did recently?

 

He does well very rarely in T20I cricket, and those very few inningswhen top order has piled runs. For ex - the match against Afghanistan.

 

 

[Nikola]

Against top 6 countries his average is 19 with strike rate of 131. If he plays as pure batsman in t20 i don't think he deserves the direct spot in the team. For all the hype about pandya academy i thought he must be striking over 150 in the format. Pant too is playing at 125. Need alot changes quickly.

[zen]

Some of my fav SDP performances in his injury impacted career  … From the top of the mind recall:

 

• 3 wkts in 3 balls v BD 2016 T20 WC (not batting but like it!)
• 27 off 12 v SL 
• 31 off 18 v BD 
• 32 off 9  v IRE
• 33 off 14 v ENG
• 21 off 11  v NZ
• 42 off 22 v AUS (MoS)
• 39 off 17 v ENG
• 35 off 13 v AFG 

Of course, took 17 runs of Afridi’s 19th over and steadied ship v NZ (NAM were in a similar position v Ind where Weiss scored 26 off 25 or something) 

 

More to come … 

 

[Khota]

But what about his 90 in SA?

[maniac]

5 minutes ago, zen said:

Of course, took 17 runs of Afridi’s 19th over and steadied ship

 

 

And still scored only 11(8)

[Nikola]

2 minutes ago, maniac said:

And still scored only 11(8)

 

Didn't knew runs scored against Bangladesh, Ireland, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka matters. Or it does for some and not for others?

[zen]

1 minute ago, maniac said:

And still scored only 11(8)

Yeah (and the highest SR for Ind), with a couple of boundaries and got an overthrow in with his aggressive attempt at running as well, which resulted from hitting those 2 4s
 

Coming in to play mostly in the last 2 overs against an inform Afridi where he picked up a batsman who had played 49 balls and momentum stalled by Jadeja with 13 off 13 

 

If Ind did not make the tactical error of sending Jadeja to maintain L-R combination, SDP could have got even more! 
 

Anyways, I like such threads as I see those as good omen got SDP

[Gambit]

Robin Singh had more impact performances than him.

[Austin 3:!6]

Was a good player between 2016-2018 but way past his expiry date. Should be no where near the side.

 

Also, a guy with ego as big as Eiffel tower...so no sympathy either. 

 

A player who :

 

1) Wont go to NCA but rely on Mumbai Indian physio for fitness certificate

2) Someone who listed as an all rounder but never bowl

3) Only bowls to secure a place for his brother Krunal in the team (like in SL tour) 

4) Someone who is best no.6 batsman for India (as per captain) but comes after Jadeja to bat (at #7) in all important game.

5) A player who flops whole tournament, score some runs against minnows and then says to journalist's arrogantly 'Aaj Karke Aaya' 

 

In my living memory of watching India matches, I don't remember a player who is as much entitled as this guy

Edited November 8, 2021 by Austin 3:!6

[zen]

Most of the Ind players need to get to a 50 to improve their strike rates and averages. SDP = Ind's best when it comes to getting off the blocks quickly and making an impact versus competitive sides in T20s:

 

View overall figures

Primary team India

Opposition team Afghanistan  or Australia  or Bangladesh  or England  or India  or New Zealand  or Pakistan  or South Africa  or Sri Lanka  or West Indies

Runs scored less than or equal to 49

Qualifications runs scored greater than or equal to 500

Ordered by batting strike rate (descending)

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
HH Pandya	2016-2021	49	34	7	515	42*	19.07	368	139.94	0	0	2	33	27
SK Raina	2006-2018	68	58	9	1138	49*	23.22	883	128.87	0	0	3	109	36
MS Dhoni	2006-2019	89	79	40	1456	49	37.33	1170	124.44	0	0	1	103	46
V Kohli	2011-2021	59	54	6	1170	49	24.37	970	120.61	0	0	2	104	28
KL Rahul	2016-2021	34	30	2	534	47	19.07	453	117.88	0	0	3	49	17
RG Sharma	2007-2021	83	75	6	946	43	13.71	849	111.42	0	0	6	89	35
S Dhawan	2011-2021	56	54	2	989	47	19.01	899	110.01	0	0	2	105	23
Yuvraj Singh	2007-2017	47	41	5	635	41	17.63	583	108.91	0	0	1	36	34

 

 

SDP's strike rate of 140 is without getting an opportunity to get to a 50. Others go at much lower strike rates when they score less than 50, which is most of the time.  

 

SDP is in a different league

Edited November 8, 2021 by zen

[rkt.india]

T20 is all about top 4. He batted a lot at 6/7 where it's very difficult to have impact as a batsman. Most times you get very few balls to bat and if you get more, it will mostly be when top 4-5 fails when the pitch isn't is to bat. You will have to see how many times he came into bat with 50 balls remaining in the innings because T20 is an hit and miss format for lower middle order. Most impact batsmen in T20s are top order batsmen. The reason England put butler at the top instead of 6.