Whether Virat Kohli overtook Sachin as the test batsmen ??

[Gollum]

28 minutes ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

 

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W Jaffer	2006-2006	9	17	0	689	212	40.52	1525	45.18	2	3	0	90	1	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
SR Tendulkar	2003-2006	27	44	5	1495	241*	38.33	3091	48.36	3	7	3	197	3	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
SC Ganguly	2003-2006	19	28	2	947	144	36.42	1778	53.26	2	4	1	119	6	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Yuvraj Singh	2003-2006	17	27	4	793	122	34.47	1478	53.65	2	3	3	113	5	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
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IK Pathan	2003-2006	21	28	2	742	93	28.53	1492	49.73	0	5	4	85	13	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
A Kumble	2003-2006	32	41	8	606	58	18.36	1501	40.37	0	1	3	78	3	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif

 

 

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SRT had a 4 year slump from from 2003-2006 where he didn't do much outside a couple of unbeaten daddy hundreds. Kohli is having similar run since 2019. I can't stand the Rat but hopefully he has a 2007-2011 WC resurgence soon.

 

Not happening, Kohli doesn't have the ability/talent/skillset SRT had. Is a sitting duck even against medium quality spin. 

[Vijy]

5 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Not happening, Kohli doesn't have the ability/talent/skillset SRT had. Is a sitting duck even against medium quality spin. 

A sitting duck against spin, a sitting duck against seam and swing (the 2018 tour was a fluke), and good against pace.

[Straight Drive]

Sachin started test career at very young age. Yet he was the best batsman for most part of his career. He was below par only for last couple of years.

 

Kohli started late by few years on comparison. His performance is below par evewn at age of about 32. Forget about double hundreds, even a 100 or a 50  looks unlikely from him now.

[SK_IH]

2 hours ago, Gollum said:

Not happening, Kohli doesn't have the ability/talent/skillset SRT had. Is a sitting duck even against medium quality spin. 

In hindsight, Virat with majority of his success in ODI was exalted to a status which he never really deserved. Sachin ROFL, Virat is not good enough to tie shoe laces of Laxman the test batsmen. I cannot imagine Loli facing McGrath, Lee & Gillespie.

Loli as a test batsmen had one great tour of Aus, one great tour of England (he was dropped multiple times). Even in his supposed peak, never really came up with match winning performances in test matches. Mark Waugh a relatively lower tier test batsmen has more memorable innings than self styled great test batsman Loli

[New guy]

20 people who took the poll were smoking crack

[kubrickian]

Kohli is a good batsman who is going through a poor patch. He had a very good run for quite a few years. If he works on his flaws, he can become good again. He is probably a bit overhyped but that's not his fault. Its unfair to compare him to Sachin, who is a once in a lifetime batsman. 

[maniac]

5 minutes ago, kubrickian said:

Kohli is a good batsman 

Good post. I know it’s an unpopular opinion given his antics and current popularity overall but in fact I would say he is a great batsman.

[sorak]

Numbers aside Kohli is quite a boring test bat except for a one or two innings.

[R!TTER]

8 minutes ago, maniac said:

he is a great batsman.

Who's going downhill like a l*** d*** at the speed of light - if he doesn't do something major in the next few years, as batter or captain he'll go down as the worst thing to happen to Indian cricket since Azhar 

[New guy]

14 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

Who's going downhill like a l*** d*** at the speed of light - if he doesn't do something major in the next few years, as batter or captain he'll go down as the worst thing to happen to Indian cricket since Azhar 

One thing he can do, is give up captaincy and focus on batting. Thats the only way he can make a comeback amd maybe go down as a great. Else his decline will continue with his insecurity 

[New guy]

On 8/6/2018 at 4:04 AM, vvvslaxman said:

Tendulkar grossly underachieved in the 90s. I mean against touring England side/sl side he should have scored like 700 runs in 3 tests. The concentration lapses of Sachin was quiet inexplicable. From the very first ball he would find the middle of the bat then all of a sudden he will play a daft shot.

Dude he averaged almost 59 in 90s and miles ahead of others. How on earth did he under achieve. 

[Suhaan]

Come out of your delusion,Kohli will remain pathetic with or without Kaptaani

He is clinging onto Kaptanni to milk whatever comes his way,he knows he will be kicked out the very next second he leaves the priced throne of Indian cricket

[Trichromatic]

3 hours ago, New guy said:

Dude he averaged almost 59 in 90s and miles ahead of others. How on earth did he under achieve. 

 

He played risky cricket and often let his ego come into play

[vvvslaxman]

4 hours ago, New guy said:

Dude he averaged almost 59 in 90s and miles ahead of others. How on earth did he under achieve. 

 

He was capable of averaging way more than that. 

[goose]

it's all very well saying this now you bunch of shopping trolleys

[rollingstoned]

He never did, it seemed that way only because of a 2 year purple patch that he had but it is in times like this that Sachin's longevity should count in his favor and not against him. 

Playing devil's advocate Kohli can still turn it around, Root couldn't buy a run a few years ago and kept finding ways to get out. It can happen even to the best of batsmen at times. Not even considering that he takes good care of himself and isn't someone heavily dependent on hand eye coordination that he will go off a cliff suddenly. 

[ShoonyaSifar]

1 hour ago, rollingstoned said:

He never did, it seemed that way only because of a 2 year purple patch that he had but it is in times like this that Sachin's longevity should count in his favor and not against him. 

Playing devil's advocate Kohli can still turn it around, Root couldn't buy a run a few years ago and kept finding ways to get out. It can happen even to the best of batsmen at times. Not even considering that he takes good care of himself and isn't someone heavily dependent on hand eye coordination that he will go off a cliff suddenly. 

Even during the days of struggle, Root never made statements like I have achieved whatever I had to. Kohli did that too before the start of this series. With that thought process, difficult to see how exactly can he get himself in the right mental frame to fight his way back to form.

[rollingstoned]

59 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

Even during the days of struggle, Root never made statements like I have achieved whatever I had to. Kohli did that too before the start of this series. With that thought process, difficult to see how exactly can he get himself in the right mental frame to fight his way back to form.

yea well insecurity and ego go hand in hand, it is one among a long list of statements that Kohli has made in defense to very reasonable observations made by people. eg people who haven't played the game shouldn't judge us, etc.

[Vancouver]

3 hours ago, rollingstoned said:

Kohli can still turn it around, Root couldn't buy a run a few years ago and kept finding ways to get out. It can happen even to the best of batsmen at times. Not even considering that he takes good care of himself and isn't someone heavily dependent on hand eye coordination that he will go off a cliff suddenly. 

 

Kohli is running out of time, 33 in 2 months. Root's worst year he averaged 37 in 2019 at age of 28. Kohli averaged 19 in 2020, and 24 in 2021 at the age of 33. Root has hit 5 centuries in last 11 tests, Kohli 0. Most batsmen hit their career peek in late 20s or early 30s, Root is going through that phase now and expect him to score at least 10 centuries in next 2 years. Hand eye coordination deteriorates a lot after 33, it happened to Ponting, Sehwag and many more. Kohli is done.

[Serpico]

Since Kohli hit his last 100