Can't have jadav,dhoni and shankar together

[Tendulkar1996]

I had already said that without dhawan we had little chance in the cup.Now its clear rahul is not fluent and is simply not in dhawan's league.

The big problem is shankar,dhoni,jadhav are all one dimensional players unable to properly rotate strike and frustrate kohli.

We will never survive with this middle order.

Another issue is 1-7 are all right handers.

We need pant in place of shankar or jadhav immediately.

Hopefully the dumb team management understands this.

Atrocious batting by dhoni and jadhav today.Rahul and shankar before that were bad,but not this bad

[sandeep]

Big problem is folks lack the ability to separate their expectations from actual reality.  This is not a 400 track or 320 even.  The ball isn't coming on to the bat. 

 

Jadhav has ABDV level stats batting in the last 10 overs of ODIs.  But why let silly things like facts get in the way of your pre-conceived notions?

 

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Rahul and shankar before that were bad,but not this bad

That's because this pair had the responsibility to ensure that a collapse for 220 odd is prevented.  Rahul and Shankar could bat with the knowledge that 3 batsmen were still to come.  These  guys don't have that luxury.

Edited June 22, 2019 by sandeep

[Yoda-esque]

IMO we should play Dhoni/Krtik, Pant and Shankar

 

Open with Shankar,Rahul too slow up front

[kubrickian]

6 hours ago, sandeep said:

Big problem is folks lack the ability to separate their expectations from actual reality.  This is not a 400 track or 320 even.  The ball isn't coming on to the bat. 

 

Jadhav has ABDV level stats batting in the last 10 overs of ODIs.  But why let silly things like facts get in the way of your pre-conceived notions?

 

That's because this pair had the responsibility to ensure that a collapse for 220 odd is prevented.  Rahul and Shankar could bat with the knowledge that 3 batsmen were still to come.  These  guys don't have that luxury.

50 odd runs in last 10 overs with 6 wickets in hand against Afghanistan is a poor effort no matter how you spin it. It was not a land mine of a pitch by any means, a bit slow perhaps but nothing alarming.

[mancalledsting]

too many safaris

[Gollum]

So now DK is the messiah, or is it Pant? Always the people on the bench are our best players, always right?

[ravishingravi]

17 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said:

IMO we should play Dhoni/Krtik, Pant and Shankar

 

Open with Shankar,Rahul too slow up front

Was just thinking that. Shankar to open if at all he plays. If Pant plays then he opens. 

[rkt.india]

16 minutes ago, kubrickian said:

50 odd runs in last 10 overs with 6 wickets in hand against Afghanistan is a poor effort no matter how you spin it. It was not a land mine of a pitch by any means, a bit slow perhaps but nothing alarming.

Yes it was alarmingly poor. It had spongy bounce. No one could time. It was probably damp in the morning but got better in the second innings with sun out.

[New guy]

6 hours ago, sandeep said:

Big problem is folks lack the ability to separate their expectations from actual reality.  This is not a 400 track or 320 even.  The ball isn't coming on to the bat. 

 

Jadhav has ABDV level stats batting in the last 10 overs of ODIs.  But why let silly things like facts get in the way of your pre-conceived notions?

 

That's because this pair had the responsibility to ensure that a collapse for 220 odd is prevented.  Rahul and Shankar could bat with the knowledge that 3 batsmen were still to come.  These  guys don't have that luxury.

This is not England or Australia either, it was Afghan. There was nothing wrong with the track as Afghan batsman showed

[rkt.india]

1 minute ago, New guy said:

This is not England or Australia either, it was Afghan. There was nothing wrong with the track as Afghan batsman showed

Afghanistan has better bowling to exploit such a pitch with 3 quality spinners. None of Aus or England have that.

[zen]

I would go with this assuming everyone is fit:

 

KL

Rohit

Kohli

Dhoni

Pandya

Pant

Jadeja/Bhuvi

Kuldeep

Shami

Chahal

Bumrah 

 

* batting order can be flexible

* strengthening the bowling further as that is what Ind banks on atm 

[prasen82]

The pitch was tricky.. but dhoni,jadhav and Shankar are similar style players unable to really rotate. 

 

I think the biggest problem I saw was kohli not getting  strike, getting frustrated and throwing away his wicket..

 

If both jadhav and Vijay Shankar do not bowl, I would have either pant/DK as insurance instead of one of them  . We can't have both jadhav and Vijay Shankar. We got lucky that the frailties got exposed today. 

 

 

Edited June 22, 2019 by prasen82

[putrevus]

Why do people make Dhoni as some Bradman.He has one innings of note in four world cups.This guy has stunk in world cups.I would drop Dhoni and give Pant a chance in game and in another one drop Jadhav.

[Frustrated]

4 minutes ago, putrevus said:

Why do people make Dhoni as some Bradman.He has one innings of note in four world cups.This guy has stunk in world cups.I would drop Dhoni and give Pant a chance in game and in another one drop Jadhav.

Pant is not a reliable WK.  Drops catches. Plus Missed stumpings.

[putrevus]

Just now, Frustrated said:

Pant is not a reliable WK.  Drops catches. Plus Missed stumpings.

Dhoni does not drop any? It is ok rest Dhoni for couple of matches.

[Suhaan]

Dhoni will stay,make peace with that

Jadhav and Shankar can't play together,they are harmless to opponents

We play cautiously till 35th over,if Jadhav is not bowling and i dont find him accelerating against better opponents then its better to play DK/Pant 

pitches will get slower from now on,we have to bat well to get atleast 260-270 on such surfaces

 

[sergio04]

After retirement of dhoni team will improve just like test team

[bowl_out]

Almost unanimous opinions here.

Drop one of Jadhav/Shankar and play Pant/DK to offer more variety to the one-dimensional middle order

[NameGoesHere]

I'd drop Shankar and substitute with Pant. 

[Khota]

Jadhav can bat. What can Shankar do?