Why are the ICFers hell bent on breaking the worlds best bowling combo ?

[sscomp32]

I seriously dont know what kind of drug icf is on that they cant seem to digest that bhu-bum-kul-cha are the best freakin white ball bowling attack in the world. Everytime someone or other keep talking of dropping one of the four. And the replacement is whio ? A rookie who performed against a team that doesn't even have odi status.  

 

My god this place is cancer. I thought it was just dhoni that this place has problem but this place is cancer.  

FYKI we have NEVER lost a match when these 4 have played and we bowled first. Even while defending we lost just 3 mostly because the other team was chasing and had an advantage.

 

Dont look at the individual performances, look at the combined effort. 

 

PLEASE DONT FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN. FOr those who want to include khaleel might do to him what happened to siraj. He has such a horror debut that he isn't even being picked now after mind boggling performances. 

 

I REPEAT PLEASE DONT FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN. That doesn't mean they are irreplaceable. If they start costing us games then it can be talked about. 

 

P.S. Before the trolls attack me and drag dhoni here also, this is not about him at all, please. 

[SK_IH]

Bhu-Bum-Kul-Cha looks a great name for Vishal Bharadwaj's next venture

[mishra]

Right now, English in England are a team to beat in whiteball cricket. They are miles ahead of rest. But yes, problem is our batting S/R.

Test them there

[Shunya]

they get upvotes if they criticize and complain and suck on each other's negativity, so they end up writing crap in every other thread. They are the intellectual cricket fans like libtards on social media...complain about everything is the way to get more limelight and be relevant... 

 

[velu]

i am not sold on chahal

if pandya comes back , we shld kick him out and continue with jaddu..

if we are going with one spinner , then drop jaddu for a pacer..

 

 

[Trichromatic]

1 minute ago, velu said:

i am not sold on chahal

if pandya comes back , we shld kick him out and continue with jaddu..

if we are going with one spinner , then drop jaddu for a pacer..

 

 

How many Indian bowlers have averaged less than 25 in ODIs?

[Stan AF]

Don't agree with the opening poster completely but in terms of odi cricket yes i want these 4 to be my first choice attack. There's something about this 4 that seems to click on a timely basis and i think the 2 individual combos (bhuvi and bumrah) and (kuldeep and chahal) are good at working in tandem.  Pandya can be the 5th bowler who has been bowling good pace (80-85 mph) but he needs to work on bowling tighter lines and not giving freebies.

 

pLUS, I definitely don't want to see the likes of ashwin, jadeja, kedhar jadhav bowling in the world cup. That is a strict No-No

[express bowling]

One of the aspects to consider is injury backup. 

 

What will happen if say Bumrah is unavailable for even a couple of matches in the World Cup  ?

 

Will we be comfortable with Kaul or Shardul or Umesh in his place  ?

 

We need to get a new pacer ready who is good both upfront and in the death overs.

 

This is one of the reasons why someone like Khaleel needs to be given a few ODI games this year itself.

Edited September 24, 2018 by express bowling

[mishra]

11 minutes ago, express bowling said:

One of the aspects to consider is injury backup. 

 

What will happen if say Bumrah is unavailable for even a couple of matches in the World Cup  ?

 

Will we be comfortable with Kaul or Shardul or Umesh in his place  ?

 

We need to get a new pacer ready who is good both upfront and in the death overs.

 

This is one of the reasons why someone like Khaleel needs to be given a few ODI games.

Let me put thing the way I see it. England has prepared standard pitches and 350+ pitches. All the matches England will play will be on 350+ pitches. While they may not be bothered to give the same say for a match between India and newzealand or other countries.

So , Ishant Bhuvi Jaddu any and all will come into play as long as opposition is not England. So judging the condition and playing the right bowlers is going to be key in the upcoming world cup

[swastikpanda2]

1. The bowling line up is against the standard world class norm. Historically, No team has won a World Cup by playing just 2 pace bowler. (Except Sri Lanka in 1996.)

 

2. The spin bowlers don't bowl during death overs. Imagine Bhuvi/Bumrah having an off day or getting injured. 

 

3. Chahal is a okayish fielder with no batting and doesn't even bowl during powerplay and death overs. He is no world class bowler either. So his position can be debatable.

 

4. India has developed a lot as a cricketing nation. You can see now India has two bowlers with one averaging 19( who doesn't bowl during tough period) and other 22 (who bowls during tough time). Fans believe there shouldn't be any place for average bowlers in the team.

 

5. Bhuvi has very poor stats in Odi. But he provides batting depth to the team. Second seamer for the team? Again debatable.

 

These are might be the reasons. It's a forum. People will have opinions just like you. They may want to see the team become like the Invincibles Australians of 2000 and WIs of 1980. This team is not. 
There is always a place for betterment. 
 

[Hell Raiser]

1 hour ago, sscomp32 said:

I seriously dont know what kind of drug icf is on that they cant seem to digest that bhu-bum-kul-cha are the best freakin white ball bowling attack in the world. Everytime someone or other keep talking of dropping one of the four. And the replacement is whio ? A rookie who performed against a team that doesn't even have odi status.  

 

My god this place is cancer. I thought it was just dhoni that this place has problem but this place is cancer.  

FYKI we have NEVER lost a match when these 4 have played and we bowled first. Even while defending we lost just 3 mostly because the other team was chasing and had an advantage.

 

Dont look at the individual performances, look at the combined effort. 

 

PLEASE DONT FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN. FOr those who want to include khaleel might do to him what happened to siraj. He has such a horror debut that he isn't even being picked now after mind boggling performances. 

 

I REPEAT PLEASE DONT FIX WHAT IS NOT BROKEN. That doesn't mean they are irreplaceable. If they start costing us games then it can be talked about. 

 

P.S. Before the trolls attack me and drag dhoni here also, this is not about him at all, please. 

Why not question them? If bhuvi is not taking enough wickets then questions should be asked. This is not 90's where we didn't had many options as far bowling is concerned. If you are not giving us cosistent breakthroughs your position should be questioned.

 

How would we know about upcoming pacers than if we continue to play the same eleven every match. In England when Bhuvi and Bumah were injured we didn't had anyone to fall back on becuase we didn't create any backups, were rigid in approach and played the same bowlers almost everywhere.

 

Bumrah is a very special bowler for us. A true match winner but it doesn't mean you play him in every freaking match and series. His workload needs to be managed and thats where lies the opportunity to try new players. Who knows may be we can get another Bumrah but for that new players needs to be trusted.

Edited September 24, 2018 by Hell Raiser

[beetle]

Chill @sscomp32

Don't take icf so seriously.

Hum sab bak bak karte hain...hamari koi nahi sunta....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SecondSlip]

1 hour ago, velu said:

i am not sold on chahal

if pandya comes back , we shld kick him out and continue with jaddu..

if we are going with one spinner , then drop jaddu for a pacer..

 

 

Jadeja is a bits and pieces cricketer in shorter formats. 

 

He can’t make it into the team on his bowling or batting alone. 

[velu]

1 hour ago, Trichromatic said:

How many Indian bowlers have averaged less than 25 in ODIs?

 

can you name any memorable perfirmance by him ?

i have his meltdown vs klassen to support my point

[velu]

6 minutes ago, SecondSlip said:

Jadeja is a bits and pieces cricketer in shorter formats. 

 

He can’t make it into the team on his bowling or batting alone. 

 

He is replacing chahal .. Then pick a seamer instead of him 

[sensible-indian]

Bhuvi must be the only cricketer who can average 38 (upwards of 45 against top 5 teams) and get rated so high by some fans. 

[rkt.india]

until we give new players chance how are we going to develop backups or know whether new ones are better than the older ones?

Edited September 25, 2018 by rkt.india

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, velu said:

 

can you name any memorable perfirmance by him ?

i have his meltdown vs klassen to support my point

he was our highest wicket taker in SA, FYI.

[velu]

1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

he was our highest wicket taker in SA, FYI.

 

carried on kuldeeps shoulders .. only thing i remember abt him is he kept tossing the ball agaain and again and klassenn kept whacking him again and again  

he is a midget both physically and mentally

[zen]

Kha-bum kul-cha (or whatever) sounds better 

 

In WC19, we may only need one specialist spinner so could go with Kha-Bum-Bhu(?)-Kul/Cha-AR-AR 

 

Don’t judge the attack based on how they do vs minnows 

Edited September 24, 2018 by zen