Saha likely to be preferred over Pant for the 1st Test vs SA

[Ankit_sharma03]

53 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Saha is an extremely good wicket keeper

 

Malum hai

[zaqw222222]

I think Pant will play all the 3 test matches. Ravi Shastri had an interview with HT in which they have mentioned that team management will back Pant.

 

Link : https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/rishabh-pant-is-special-will-back-him-to-the-hilt-ravi-shastri-exclusive/story-xgl6Gn9heH5tqg5jvhpZ4N.html

[adi B]

Is this true ? As dumb as this current TM is ,they cant go this dumb!

I like saha but pant deserves to be in the playing 11 even if he fails in a couple of series

[Forever Indian]

1 hour ago, adi B said:

Is this true ? As dumb as this current TM is ,they cant go this dumb!

I like saha but pant deserves to be in the playing 11 even if he fails in a couple of series

Nothing is impossible with this TM. Did you ever imagine in your wildest dream that Rohit will be our opener in tests? .... well, they made it possible 

[New guy]

17 hours ago, Vilander said:

Saha is an extremely good wicket keeper

 

Pant had two similar catches in the last test match he played 

[maniac]

While I clearly see a pattern emerging with the way Pant is being handled, got to feel for Saha as well. He was India's no.1 keeper. Did nothing wrong, Was hailed as one of our best keepers ever and then he gets injured and then injury get's mishandled and all of a sudden he is no where in the reckoning. I think Pant with his batting has obviously over taken Saha but as a pure keeper Saha is better, so that kind of evens out.

Edited September 27, 2019 by maniac

[maniac]

5 hours ago, Forever Indian said:

Nothing is impossible with this TM. Did you ever imagine in your wildest dream that Rohit will be our opener in tests? .... well, they made it possible 

:)

[Tibarn]

If Saha beats Pant out in the nets, then why not?  Saha is a better keeper, but Pant seems to be a better Batsman. 

 

In India, we have both Ashwin and Jaddu likely to play; that's basically 2 allrounders in Indian conditions. Our tail would only be 2 long, whoever the two pacers are. 

 

Arguably we get more value from Saha's keeping than Pant's superior batting. 

[rkt.india]

Retirement for Pant before Dhoni beckons.

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, maniac said:

While I clearly see a pattern emerging with the way Pant is being handled, got to feel for Saha as well. He was India's no.1 keeper. Did nothing wrong, Was hailed as one of our best keepers ever and then he gets injured and then injury get's mishandled and all of a sudden he is no where in the reckoning. I think Pant with his batting has obviously over taken Saha but as a pure keeper Saha is better, so that kind of evens out.

Saha is going to turn 35 in October. His selection is a step backwards. Bringing back Saha is an apt example of conservative thinking of our captain. He wants ready-made players which never happens.  I would have liked Bharat as 2nd wk. Also, looking at Saga's fitness history, he has been injured too many times mid series.

[ShoonyaSifar]

14 hours ago, zaqw222222 said:

I think Pant will play all the 3 test matches. Ravi Shastri had an interview with HT in which they have mentioned that team management will back Pant.

 

Link : https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/rishabh-pant-is-special-will-back-him-to-the-hilt-ravi-shastri-exclusive/story-xgl6Gn9heH5tqg5jvhpZ4N.html

Like they backed Rayudu for the number 4 slot in the WC?

 

This TM is great at such talk but does exact reverse.

[Forever Indian]

1 hour ago, maniac said:

:)

It would have been your wildest dream come true 

[rtmohanlal]

every thing is possible with this TM,  even some thing we can't  even imagine in our wildest dreams. So need not be surprised  if Pant after averaging 45

 with 2 abroad 100s get dropped. Any way there have been 2 extremes ,namely  playing T20s as practice matches for ENG tests &  playing T20 hack Kartick to do the role of Dravid in an all important world cup semi.So ,if  proclaiming Rayudu as no:4 for world cups only to drop him just before the start was  only a hat trick chance, let this be the hat trick.

[jf1gp_1]

I am actually conflicted on this one. We could easily walk away with 100 points. With both jaddu and ashwin expected to return i dont think we will miss pant the batsman but then if we dont play him then how do we expect him to get better against spinners. 

[vvvslaxman]

I very much doubt that would be the case. Pant's Test performances should not be judged based on his failures in shorter formats. There is a lot of energy about him.

[New guy]

20 hours ago, Tibarn said:

If Saha beats Pant out in the nets, then why not?  Saha is a better keeper, but Pant seems to be a better Batsman. 

 

In India, we have both Ashwin and Jaddu likely to play; that's basically 2 allrounders in Indian conditions. Our tail would only be 2 long, whoever the two pacers are. 

 

Arguably we get more value from Saha's keeping than Pant's superior batting. 

Let's use the same standards for everyone shall we? If kohli and rohit get beaten by other batsmen in nets drop them too

 

I love how some people here are even more short sighted than team management 

Edited September 28, 2019 by New guy

[Tibarn]

1 hour ago, New guy said:

Let's use the same standards for everyone shall we?

This is called a false equivalency.

 

Kohli is one of the handful of best batsmen in the world in the Test format.  

 

Pant is a relatively new player who has shown potential in the format, particularly with the bat, but he has a legitimate competitor for the same playing position to him in the short term: Saha.  

 

Rohit is pretty much a non-entity and under-performer in Tests for his whole career, but seems to be a favorite of the current selection committee. 

 

What kind of logic is it to judge Kohli by the same standard to the latter two.  

 

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If kohli and rohit get beaten by other batsmen in nets drop them too

If Rohit is outperformed in the nets by both Gill and Agarwal, why shouldn't the latter two play over him? None of the 3 opening options are well established in the format. None of the 3 really walk into the side based on past performances 

 

Let me guess, you want to arbitrarily pick which two of the three to play based on who you like more...

 

1 hour ago, New guy said:

I love how some people here are even more short sighted than team management

I like people try to justify their newfound fanboyism for one player by projecting it as some great forward-thinking plan.   The mere mention of the possibility of another player having a legitimate case for being the playing XI over their new object of obsession invokes such fury.

 

Just because some of you guys found a new player to be obsessed over,  doesn't mean that all challengers for that one spot in the side are permanently put on the back-burner. There are perfectly sensible reasons for Saha to get consideration over Pant for the SA Test series.

 

If team management decides that Saha, who was the first-choice keeper before he got injured,  should play, he will play. If Saha disappoints, then feel free to jump on his selection to your heart's content and talk about how moronic "Bevada" and "Rat" were.  

 

PSA to Pant-fanboys: kindly spare me your fanboy-rage and engage me when you can think objectively about players and tell me why Saha shouldn't even be considered for a spot in the playing XI.  I'm not interested in unnecessarily having to criticize Pant, who I think has the potential to be an all format, first-choice keeper for India. 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 28, 2019 by Tibarn

[rtmohanlal]

yet to buy on this news, but if this happens this has to be the dumbest of the lot moves by this TM. A youngster of only  21  with  such a  'great test record start  in every sense ' can serve for  lots of years. To  replace him with a mediocre Saha with a mere avg: of  30.63 and almost of age 35  is  dumb ass ness of epic proportions.

[New guy]

17 hours ago, Tibarn said:

This is called a false equivalency.

 

Kohli is one of the handful of best batsmen in the world in the Test format.  

 

Pant is a relatively new player who has shown potential in the format, particularly with the bat, but he has a legitimate competitor for the same playing position to him in the short term: Saha.  

 

Rohit is pretty much a non-entity and under-performer in Tests for his whole career, but seems to be a favorite of the current selection committee. 

 

What kind of logic is it to judge Kohli by the same standard to the latter two.  

 

If Rohit is outperformed in the nets by both Gill and Agarwal, why shouldn't the latter two play over him? None of the 3 opening options are well established in the format. None of the 3 really walk into the side based on past performances 

 

Let me guess, you want to arbitrarily pick which two of the three to play based on who you like more...

 

I like people try to justify their newfound fanboyism for one player by projecting it as some great forward-thinking plan.   The mere mention of the possibility of another player having a legitimate case for being the playing XI over their new object of obsession invokes such fury.

 

Just because some of you guys found a new player to be obsessed over,  doesn't mean that all challengers for that one spot in the side are permanently put on the back-burner. There are perfectly sensible reasons for Saha to get consideration over Pant for the SA Test series.

 

If team management decides that Saha, who was the first-choice keeper before he got injured,  should play, he will play. If Saha disappoints, then feel free to jump on his selection to your heart's content and talk about how moronic "Bevada" and "Rat" were.  

 

PSA to Pant-fanboys: kindly spare me your fanboy-rage and engage me when you can think objectively about players and tell me why Saha shouldn't even be considered for a spot in the playing XI.  I'm not interested in unnecessarily having to criticize Pant, who I think has the potential to be an all format, first-choice keeper for India. 

 

 

 

 

You have no idea what pant has achieved in tests do you? Laxman has 0 100s in England in his entire career. Dravid and schwag have 1 in Australia in their entire career. Pant already has 1 each in both countries in his first tours there. So yes, if you were objective you would be laughing along with us at the suggestion of replacing him. Not to mention his keeping is almost impeccable now.

 

But instead of sticking with this immensely talented guy your suggestion is drop him for no reason. which is what other countries do with their amazing talents? Now we laugh at pak fans but look at how they supported Amir even when he fixed and was jailed. On the other hand Indian fans love their oldies for some reason and its their young talents they target instead of supporting 

Edited September 29, 2019 by New guy

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