Where did this fight and self belief come from ? Rahane, Shastri , Ashwin and Bharat Arun deserves every bit of praise

[Ankit_sharma03]

Acc to me this is the best cricket i have seen in Indian history not skill wise but in terms of resilience and fight. We have had biggest of the biggest name but cricket is always a team game and this has been a side of 11 players not individual big names. 

Look at the series or circumstances 

 

Melbourne

 

• Ur biggest batsman returns home
• after 36 all out 
• No Ishant and Shami 
• We loose Umesh in between the match as well 
• Rahane under massive pressure for his own form 

 

But despite all this the team won 

 

Sydney 

 

• This team in past have surrendered in 4th innings time n again that we have this expectation that if we are chasing 170+ in 4th innings we will fall flat on our faces. But it wasnt the story that day - Ashwin with a very bad back, Pant with an injured elbow , Vihari with a grade 2 tear which makes walking difficult as well.....drew the game . This is against a world class bowling attack .
• Jaddu was ready to bat with a broken thumb

 

Gabba

 

• Putting a XI on ground was a task
• lost even bumrah, ashwin and jaddu now 
• Natrajan , Sundar basically are t20 players
• Shardul again doesnt inspire confidence in many
• Saini injured in between match
• Pujara n Rahane got out early 

 

But again another fight, it has given fans the feeling that someone will step up.

 

 

 

Now Question is where did this come from ? We have given credit to kohli for this team post dhoni but Virat isnt even here. This team has looked like a bunch of individuals in past under virat but now its looking like a unit .  Every player has a belief that he can be the hero which is a hallmark of great side . 

 

• Shastri- like it or not but he deserves credit, to keep team in good spirit and giving every self belief 
• Rahane- I think everyone looks at more ease under him then kohli, which is why they are able to concentrate on their games rather their positions . Also if ur team keeps bouncing back surely captain is doing something right. He has extracted performances from everyone 
• Ashwin- Half the captain of this side who decides to step up once kohli went back home. The fight in this team comes from this guy 
• Arun - Ill just say one thing Our bowling Fab 5 is far more valuable in test cricket then batting fab 5 and he deserves a lot of credit for it

Edited January 17, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03

[Trichromatic]

Goes to show that Shastri isn't part of problem. Combo of Kohli-Shastri is problem.

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, Trichromatic said:

Goes to show that Shastri isn't part of problem. Combo of Kohli-Shastri is problem.

 

yea one thing i have always known of shastri since his commentary days was he was a massive fan of pushing youngsters. His fight with ganguly was also for a reason that he supported chappel for bringing youngsters in that phase ....so it always made me wonder how come under this guy youngsters are chopped n changed at the drop of hat. Well guess what Indian team n RCB had same problems and same common factor

[G_B_]

The selections have been spot on.

 

Kohli biggest issue is poor selection.

 

Fans cant see how somebody is performing in the nets.

[Lone Wolf]

Proper planning as well.  The way Rahane explained the reason to promote Pant in SCG was to break the rhythm of Aussie pacers by having a left hander..  Tactics have been spot on overall since Adelaide.  Reason why we are punching above the weight. 

Our players aren't mentally weak or short in Talent..  The problem was always the Captain & his stupid tactics. 

 

[Majestic]

This team was built by our GOAT test kaptaan Kohli. The results are seen now but the foundation was laid by our king Kohli. IMO, he may not be playing but deserves all the respect. These Siraj and Sundar have come from his IPL team only which has helped them to play the game of test cricket with right mindset and determination. Rahane is just a paper captain.

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

Also planning has been so good

 

1. They have come with a plan for Smith 
2. Look at the way these guys have played Lyon- Gill, pant, Sundar, Thakur, Ashwin, mayank
3. Promotion of Pant

[Ankit_sharma03]

6 minutes ago, G_B_ said:

The selections have been spot on.

 

Kohli biggest issue is poor selection.

 

Fans cant see how somebody is performing in the nets.

 

i think his biggest problem is he has this anxious and nervous vibe which leads to collapses in pressure situation and players arent at ease around him

[beetle]

There is no negative enery that Virat Kohli brings with his personality. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, beetle said:

There is no negative enery that Virat Kohli brings with his personality. 

 

not negative but anxious and nervous which is why teams choke under him 

[Clarke]

24 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Goes to show that Shastri isn't part of problem. Combo of Kohli-Shastri is problem.

 

Which means Shastri is happy to be chamcha ? Not quite the coach that serves the best interest of the team.

[Suhaan]

Kohli is all about negativity,if he were present

India would have been trailing 3-0

He was kaptaaning against NZ a notch below Aussie side,played a full strength side but surrendered 2-0,he heckles with confidence of youngsters

Im sure Siraj,Gill,Pant would have been duds under his divine presence

Edited January 17, 2021 by Suhaan

[ThirtyD.]

Injuries forced India to think outside the box and utilize benched players to the fullest. This has to be our biggest lesson for future to ensure we pick team based on skills and not reputation. Without these injuries I do not believe we would have seen such rotation in our playing XI and perhaps the results might have been similar to what we suffered in Melbourne.

 

Full credit to this lot of players and staff for the fight they’ve shown throughout this test series. I would coin this tour as an overall mildly successful.

[Number]

Patrick Ewing theory at work.

 

Edited January 17, 2021 by Number

[maniac]

People saying Sundar is a T20 player haven’t watched this match. Sundar when batting looked like this is his 2nd Aus tour playing Starc,Cummins,Hazelwood.

 

He took 3 wickets with beautifully set up bowling.

 

OP rates Krunal Pandya more than Suadar because of tattoos and piercings.

 

Natarajan yes has a long way to go

still in tests despite the performance.

Edited January 17, 2021 by maniac

[Jimmy Cliff]

4 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

Goes to show that Shastri isn't part of problem. Combo of Kohli-Shastri is problem.

 

Is this a roundabout way of saying that Kohli is the problem? 

[Ankit_sharma03]

24 minutes ago, maniac said:

People saying Sundar is a T20 player haven’t watched this match. Sundar when batting looked like this is his 2nd Aus tour playing Starc,Cummins,Hazelwood.

 

Ppl saying he is a t20 player is correct , coz his bowling is at best for t20s right now coz he doesnt turn or even bowl off stump line. His bowling heavily relies on varaiton which works in t20 not in test. Which is why even his state doesnt trust his bowling

About batting, always he has very good technique but then he ll have to aim as a batting all rounder which makes him compete with guys like Shankar, pandya and now Sundar. His Fc avg is 31 which doesnt help his case as batting all rounder

 

 

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He took 3 wickets with beautifully set up bowling.

 

but it wasnt test match bowling 

 

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OP rates Krunal Pandya more than Suadar because of tattoos and piercings.

 

Bola andar ka budha, why is tattoo even in discussion its u who is seeing them i aint 

OP rates Krunal in t20 not in any other format, and pandya has won 3 MOM n 1 MOS all overseas, also an IPL final for MI so Krunal is a clutch player. Format diff to seekh lo yaar .

Also if u wanna talk about Krunal and others, just check his impact for Mi and others like sundar , Axar, Jaddu for their franchise....krunal has made more difference

 

About tattoos here u go the list of players i rate highly find how many has tattoo n piercing

 

1. hardik
2. Rahul
3. Pant
4. Gill
5. Shaw
6. Shankar
7. Samad
8. Rahul chahar 
9. Siraj
10. Tyagi
11. Mavi 

1-2 se zyyada ke nahin honge

 

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Natarajan yes has a long way to go

still in tests despite the performance.

 

same is the case for sundar, he shud aim to become batting all rounder for which he shud learn to score big and he will with time . His bowling doesnt have tools for test 

Edited January 17, 2021 by Ankit_sharma03

[adi B]

With kohli as the leader ,I sometimes the players especially the young ones play with shackles on and are scared to Express themselves .

They are rather mould into playing in a certain way/brand which the captain feels is the right way . It can work sometimes and sometimes not 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

Aaj gupta ji bhi wahi soch rahe hai 

[ShoonyaSifar]

More than anyone, each of our young players should get most of the praise. They have come out and showed an unthinkable sense of purpose, not even getting bogged down by the barage of short bowling. bother.

 

TM especially Rahane (and the senior pros Ashwin, Pujara and Rohit) do deserve the kudos for keeping the team together. Not so sure about Shastri and co. They have been partners in crime with Kohli in the last 2-3 years. Thankfully Rahane has shown mirror to them (and Kohli)

 

I'm so glad our younger players have slapped every single cheerleader (including some on this forum) who have mocked these same youngsters just to defend Kohli and his bizarre leadership.

 

In fact, it was a blessing that the captain choker returned home after 36 all out. His presence alone would have dragged this team down. Like he did after his run out in the first test or after the Bumrah no ball in CT final.